Wednesday, August 29, 2018

Giving Up: James Wright and the Misgivings of Ambition

by Anthony Fife

I’d started four different James Wright essays, each quickly withering on the vine.  And me with such high hopes!

The first one began, “There are at least half a dozen discernible James Wrights.  Among them are the young formalist, the translator, and the European prose poet.”  This one would have been an essay of lists and would require me to pick apart the inextricable.  After the better part of a page I gave up.

Three aborted essays later, I typed, “James Wright spent roughly the first half of his life in a world open only to traditional verse, and the second half in a world that tried to destroy it.”  Even now I like this sentence, bold and calling out for a soulful “Amen.”  But this one, too, as I worked my way through the introduction and into the first body paragraph, proved a failure.  From such declarative beginnings I found myself devolving into a boring and wholly unoriginal treatise on how the G.I. Bill changed everything. 

What’s the use, I wondered, deciding I wouldn’t write an essay after all.

I’m not the first to fail.  I think of Han-shan, high on his mountain.  He tried to live like everyone else.

I simply didn’t have it in me.  Couldn’t muster another essay written formally and with that scholarly distance so prized by academics.  But if I could somehow bypass all the formality…

Here’s a James Wright poem I bet most of you don’t remember: Old Bud.

Not that Wright himself was averse to formality.  Either artistic or scholarly.  As a young educator, in fact, he was hired at the University of Minnesota to lecture on the English Novel, with a special focus on Charles Dickens.  I wonder what, for Wright, would have been the appeal?

Dickens—his novels so full of poverty and love, hardship and the best and worst kinds of community.

The image is clear to me as a bell: the shabbier districts of Charles Dickens’ London as besmirched by industrial soot as the houses and new-fallen snow of James Wright’s Martins Ferry.                      

                                         Old Bud

Old Bud Romick weighed three hundred pounds if he weighed
an ounce, and he weighed an ounce.  He used to sit on his front
porch swing, enraged and helpless, while his two tiny grandchildren,
hilarious and hellish little boys, scampered just out of his reach and
yelled hideously, “Hell on you, Grandpa.”  His unbelievable Adam’s
apple purpled and shone like the burl on the root of a white oak,
and he sang his God Dams in despair.
    Old Bud Romick has fallen asleep as the twilight comes down
Pearl Street in Martin’s Ferry, Ohio.  The window shutters close here
and there, and the flowing streetcars glow past into silence, their
wickers seats empty, for the factory whistles have all blown down,
and the widows all gone home.  Empty, too, are the cinder alleys,
smelling of warm summer asphalt.  The streetlight columns, faintly
golden, fill with the cracked mirrors of June bugs’ wings.  Old Bud
Romick sags still on the porch swing.  The rusty chains do their best
for his body in the dark.
    The dark turns around him, a stain like the bruise on a plum
somebody somehow missed and left under a leaf.  His two hellions
have long since giggled their way upstairs.  Old Bud Romick is talking
lightly in his sleep, and an evening shower brings him a sticky new
sycamore leaf in his sleep.
    Whether or not he is aware of leaves, I don’t know.  I don’t know
whether or not he is aware of anything touching his face.  Whether
or not he dreams of how slender sycamores are, how slender young
women are when they walk beneath the trees without caring how
green they are, how lucky a plum might be if it dies without being
eaten, I don’t know.

By no means a perfect poem.  But try not to giggle at and with the little boys.

And we laugh to keep from crying until the two equal, but opposite inciting emotions are as inextricable as if they stemmed from same ugliness and beauty.  Old Bud marooned out on his straining porch swing—I can’t help but worry about him and wonder how he, or any of us for that matter, will get by. 

Each stanza is its own little essay.  The first provides the exposition and the humor.  In #2, the tone changed drastically, the whole thing winds down.  The boys and the town, even Old Bud himself.  And we could have ended right there.  What a way to end this sad, funny poem: “The rusty chains do their best / for his body in the dark.”  But having done so, having stopped at the imagery and personification, we would have missed the sermon.

In stanza three we are plums, hidden on the branch.  The best we could have hoped for was just not getting plucked.  The third stanza is the moral stanza.  In it we are gifted with insight about our own human frailties and our own human inevitabilities. 

In #4 the prophet undercuts most of what we’d thought we’d learned, and we’re back at the first stanza, forced to fend for ourselves in the opaque world without any discernible philosophy to guide us.

My two favorite poets both sought, like many others, to turn the inward out.  But William Stafford and James Wright did so in two very different ways. 

Many of Wright’s most memorable poems live in the land between.  We are just as much a part of Po Chü-i’s continuum as we are of Wright’s.  And if that can be true, what couldn’t?

Stafford is just as philosophical, but much more overtly responsible when he shines a light on our inner turmoil.  He often meets the reader more than half way when it comes to some conclusion he wishes us to draw.  And he’s far less Chinese about it.

Having typed the last two paragraphs, I now can’t really remember what I had in mind when I juxtaposed these two poets.  There are similarities: both befriended by and, though both deceased, still championed by Robert Bly.  Both touched by war in their equal but maybe opposite ways.  But Stafford was so very upright and moral, if pessimistic.  He had an ideal in mind and occasionally found it.  For Wright, the search or the philosophy maybe was the ideal.

I don’t want to give the wrong impression; I make it sound like Stafford is the much more conservative poet.  I don’t think that’s the case, especially as far as process is concerned.  Whereas Wright seemed to begin at a much less arbitrary place, Stafford attempts to follow his famed thread wherever it leads.  I don’t know whether or not we are supposed to know the destination when we see it, but that’s the idea.

Sometimes little triggers happen, bringing both of them to me:


One scene as I bow to pour her coffee—
            Three Indians in the scouring drouth
            huddle at the grave scooped in the gravel,
            lean to the wind as our train goes by.
            Someone is gone.
            There is dust on everything in Nevada.
I pour the cream.

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From a Bus Window in Central Ohio, Just Before a Thunder Shower

Cribs loaded with roughage huddled together
Before the north clouds.
The wind tiptoes between poplars.
The silver maple leaves squint toward the ground.
An old farmer, his scarlet face
Apologetic with whiskey, swings back a barn door
And calls a hundred black-and-white Holsteins
From the clover field.

Let the length of the second title be your guide in determining which poem belongs to which poet; I won’t say more.

Anyway, I read them both recently and so they’re both fresh in mind, which is probably why I paired them here.  Maybe I shouldn’t have.  Maybe I’ve sawed the barrel too short and my shot is scattered much wider than it ought.  Maybe.

In addition to Wright and Stafford, I also recently read Jonathan Blunk’s James Wright: A Life in Poetry.  [How’s that for a segue!]   

Bear with me, please, while I borrow a couple of sentences from my second and third abandoned essays: “There are at least half a dozen discernible James Wrights… Blunk’s fascinating, well-researched biography is a device through which we might simultaneously view each of the Wrights…”

Each of the Wrights?  It’s quite simple, really.  Growing up, Wright was an Appalachian-Rust Belt kid, who also happened to be a rural-urbanite.  Of course, Wright was also a gregarious introvert who sought solitude via a very public medium, so all bets are off when it comes to concise explanation of his psyche.  I learned all this from Blunk, who was good enough to speak with me at length about what he found out in his twenty years researching and writing his incredible James Wright biography.

Transcript of interview available below.

Jonathan Blunk says his book is built to last.  Absolutely right.  I can envision later volumes that might focus solely upon Wright’s Kenyon years, or his Seattle years.  Indeed, many individual components of Wright’s journey could receive full book treatment.  I can even imagine books that more fully explicate Wright’s poetry.  What I can’t do, however, is imagine another biography, any biography, that could possible supplant Blunk’s tome as the best overall look into the life of our deep and troubled poet.  James Wright: A Life in Poetry is definitive. 

And why not?  Blunk’s exhaustive research is clearly on display.  As is his abounding enthusiasm, a quality ever-present in his telling of Wright’s life.  Blunk loves the poetry and he relishes the opportunity to better understand it by better understanding the man. 
It’s an incredible book.  I'd love to read it again.

You can look it up—twenty years is about how long, at the outside, historians estimate it took to complete the Great Pyramid of Giza.  But those guys, the Egyptians, were working toward a single point.  Blunk, like Wright himself, was working toward something far more complex.

Jonathan Blunk's James Wright: A Life in Poetry
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A Telephone Interview with James Wright Biographer, Jonathan Blunk

I don’t regret a moment of the time I spend in James Wright’s company”
                                                                                    Jonathan Blunk, 2018

Anthony Fife:    [T]here’s not many people who have their own festival…
Jonathan Blunk:  I haven’t found any American poets who have a festival in their honor.  Certainly not one that has carried on for thirty years. 

The festival we had back in April in his home town of Martin’s Ferry, Ohio, where all the festivals have been held, that was kind of a, what Tom Flynn, one of the organizers, called the Phoenix Festival.  It had been in hiatus since—I think the last festival was in 2007—but it had begun the year after Wright’s passing…

In 1981, Robert Bly and the poet Dave Smith took part in the first of what became a yearly festival in April, in Martin’s Ferry: the James Wright Poetry Festival.  So that continued until 2007. 

I recorded a great number of the festivals in the latter—actually, I was there for the 10th festival, which would have been in 1990 and that was just when the Complete Poems was published, or about to be published by Wesleyan and Farrar Straus…and there was a great gathering.  Many of the poets who had been there in the previous ten years of the festival were there and I recorded the whole festival and did interviews at that time. 

I’ve done a lot of work in radio; that’s one of the reasons I play jazz music.  I did a history of Reggae music for National Public Radio and so I was on radio playing Reggae and African music in the 1980s.  But I decided it would be great to do a documentary on James Wright, who I had studied in college.  That’s why I recorded the 10th festival.  Since that time, in 1980, I’ve recorded eight or nine of the festivals, into 2007.  By that time, I was deep at work on the biography.  But that was a radio project I was working on back in 1990, and so that actually was the beginning of the interviews that came to figure so importantly in the biography itself.  So, my research goes back many, many years.

In fact, when I was an undergraduate at Cornell University in the late 1970s, I was introduced to James Wright’s work, and I was also studying Latin American literature and I was amazed at how his translations of the Latin American poets Caesar Vallejo and Pablo Neruda, and also, I branched out into the Spanish poets.  I had been studying Spanish and I could see clearly that his work in translation had a direct influence on his own poetry and that fascinated me.  So, I wrote an honors thesis at Cornell on James Wright’s translations from the Spanish, and so my work on his poetry goes back to that time. 

I had hoped to meet him and to interview him.  I had already met Robert Bly in 1979, and Robert encouraged me—and also Fran Quinn, a good friend of mine—encouraged me to seek out Wright when he returned from his travels in Europe.  In 1979, he and Ann Wright, his wife, his second wife, traveled extensively in Italy and France and England, and other parts of Europe.  They returned in September of ’79, and I had…written to him asking for a chance to interview him specifically about his translations.  He took ill very quickly that fall and passed away in March. 

So, I missed the chance to meet him in person.  That has something to do with my trying to track him down; I think some of the energy that went into the biography was fueled by that sense of having missed an opportunity somehow. 

It was a deeply tragic kind of loss to the world of poetry that was keenly felt by many of his peers, most of his peers in his generation, but also by younger poets who had already recognized in him an example or mentor or a way to move their own poetry forward.  He was very much a mentor of a world of poetry at the time of his passing.  So, not only is the festival evidence of how influential he was to readers and other fellow poets, or how they recognized in him a voice they felt comfortable with or challenged their work…[A]t the time of his death and for years afterwards, poets were writing elegies dedicated to him and there are literally dozens and dozens of them…There’s so many beautiful elegies that were written for him as a testament to how people feel touched by his work, and those who knew him felt the loss very deeply.  So, I’m not alone in that, having been attracted to his work as an undergraduate.

AF:     The festival, you say, started there at the end of his life.  Was he known in his home town as somebody who was that important or was it just outside of Martin’s Ferry that he was so well regarded?

JB:      His relationship to the people in his hometown is a fascinating topic.  For most of his life he swore that he would never go back to his hometown and I think in a certain way that vehemence lessened later in his life…[H]e entertained the idea of returning to Martin’s Ferry in 1976, before he realized that the mayor at the time was using his coming to town almost as a political event to try to use his fame—by that time James Wright had won a Pulitzer Prize…

He had had a difficult childhood in a way…his family was fully intact [and] there was a great deal of love that he shared with his siblings…But it was the place.  He was highly aware of how industry had kind of disfigured the natural beauty of the part of Ohio where he grew up.  Martin’s Ferry being just across the river and a little north of Wheeling, West Virginia, it’s an industrial town—it was then.  A steel town, a coal town—there were coal mines throughout the hills to the west of Martin’s Ferry.  And he was very much aware of the great natural beauty of the Ohio River, which is maybe a quarter of a mile across at that point; it’s really quite stunning, the majesty of the river at that point, where Martin’s Ferry kind of ascends the…Appalachian hills all along that stretch of the river. 

As a child he saw the floods that wiped out whole neighborhoods that were all along the river, but it was the industry, the steel mills…the soot from the coal, the burning coal in houses as well as factories left a layer of grime on everything within an hour of a snowfall.  The snow would be blackening with coal soot. 

This was the depression when James Wright was growing up—he was born in 1927, December 13th, 1927.  His family wasn’t desperately poor; they moved frequently when he was young, almost every year.  His mother was kind of a wondering spirit in that way; she didn’t like neighbors or trust people within her realm.  But you could also get a free months’ rent if you signed with a landlord to stay for an entire year, so actually her moving the family frequently was one kind of effort to stay ahead. 

His father always had a job, except when he was laid off for a few months in the summers during the Depression.  So, they had a fairly steady income—they sometimes were hungry…he remembers putting cardboard in his shoes as a child, but there were so many people who were so much worse off that he responded to this emotionally, I think. 

That’s one of the things, one of the feelings I have about his experience of childhood, that he was aware of the suffering around him that other people were undergoing.  And part of that he held against the place; that’s part of his insistence to leave the place behind and part of it was the way he saw his parents who wanted much more out of their lives. 

His father, certainly, working in a factory from the time he was fourteen.  Saw his whole life in an assembly line, at what was called the Hazel Atlas Glass company in Wheeling.  He was a di-cutter for canning jars.  In the depression the canning industry was somewhat immune to the fortunes of, the misfortunes that were rampant throughout the country.  People in the canning industry actually survived very well because that was one way people could keep their own stock of food. 

So, he had a very conflicted feeling toward his hometown.  And his people, the people that began reading his poems often misread his honesty as a betrayal of some kind of trust.  He felt the need throughout his life to eke the truth of what his experience was and how he saw the world, and so he spoke somewhat harshly about the place at times.  A lot of that was read by people who knew him back in his hometown as kind of a, you know, harsh betrayal of the place, but he never really felt that way. 

He was much more devoted to the place than I think he knew himself.  When you realize that even in his last book, his posthumous book, so many of those poems return to Martin’s Ferry and to the Ohio River.  Every one of his books, really, touches upon that place. 

That was one of the wonderful things about writing the biography…tracing that story of his relationship to his native place and how it made him, and how his poetic imagination, I think, is really spurred by his experience as a child and young man in that part of Ohio, and his love for his relatives and the people the he knew there and admired.

His travels to Europe, when he was traveling with his second wife, Ann Wright—they made their first trip to Europe traveling in the summer of 1970, and then they make many, many trips in the last decade of his life, returning to Paris, especially, and Verona, his most favorite city, and throughout Tuscany, Venice and Vienna.  His experience of the Old World, the historied world of Italy and France, colored his view of America, made him kind of homesick for the place, and he saw how much he himself really loved his home town and his native Ohio.  But he was drawn to Italy, especially, because he had studied so much Latin in high school, and he felt a closeness to Horace and Dante, and all those “old Italians,” he would call them…

He had a great love for history.  He had an amazing mind.  James Wright had one of the most remarkably, just, deep and clear intelligences.  One of the great quotes I have from Robert Bly in the book is, he spoke of his poetic intelligence as approaching that of a great musician.  It’s like a musical quality.  It’s as if he had a perfect ear for poetry essentially.  That’s one of the arguments I make in my book, is that he could hear languages and hear sequences of words and remember them, because of just a very keen sense of hearing.  It was united with his phenomenal memory. 

He could recite many hundreds and hundreds of poems by heart but also novels, complete chapters of Dickens and it’s totally astonishing.  Almost everyone I spoke to, and I interviewed over 200 people for my book and, nearly to a person, there were reminiscence and anecdotes about his extraordinary memory… 

[I]n 1998 I did the first of the interviews that I had begun to imagine that I might write a biography, so it does go back twenty years.  I interviewed W. S. Merwin in October of 1998, and Donald Hall in February of 1999, and I had begun to think of writing a biography then.  There had been a previous biographer that was named by Ann Wright, and he had actually signed a contract with her in 1982, but never actually wrote the first page or even begun the work, and made public appearances as the “official biographer,” but never actually began the work.  So, there was a sense in 1998 that the work wasn’t getting done and I had begun to sense that myself. 

I had become friends with Ann Wright after meeting her in 1990, that 10th anniversary festival, and so I began work on what I imagined would be a second biography.  Ann Wright asked me to write the biography in 2002, and I signed a contract with Farrar, Straus and Giroux in 2008…

Anne Wright is the executor, or executrix of the James Wright estate, which gives her the power to permit or withhold permission from schools or writers to read James Wright’s unpublished work, and to quote from any of his work you would need her permission to publish his poems.  So that’s what makes a biographer “authorized,” is that the executor of the estate grants permission for a biographer to have access to all of the work and to publish whatever they would wish.  My agreement with her gave me the authority to write the book as I needed to.  She was very gracious and honored that commitment. 

So, the book is entirely my own and I’m proud of the way it came out.  It was more than twice as long as it is now when I—my first draft was well over 1000 pages, so it’s been edited, at times, what feels like severely, but I’m happy with the choices I’ve made. 

There’s a long essay I’m now working on that only is glancingly referenced in the book, and it returns to his love of the Spanish poets and the work that he did in the late 1950s and early 1960s.  Especially of Antonio Machado and Juan Ramon Jimenez and Garcia Lorca—Federico Garcia Lorca.   Those poets had a profound influence on him and I’m working on a long essay about James Wright’s love of those poets, the translations he did, and the influence it had on his work.  It centers on the color green.  The color green pops up all over the poems that went into his watershed collection, The Branch Will Not Break, which came out in 1963.

So, there’s a hiatus between 1959 and 1963, when he published his second book, Saint Judas…and this long stretch of years when he’s working feverishly at putting a collection together but writing marvelously and translating very wildly.  But in that book, The Branch Will Not Break, the color green begins to blossom everywhere and part of that is the influence of the Spanish poets he’d been translating.  Garcia Lorca has a very famous poem—it’s translated often as “The Sleepwalking Ballad”—that begins, “Green I want you green.”  It’s a beautiful, beautiful poem.  It’s famous throughout Spain.  There’s probably not a Spaniard who couldn’t recite some of those verses to you; it’s that famous.  It goes very deeply, touches upon the Spanish culture in Spain. 

So, that was one reason I wanted to return to Spain this last June.  It was kind of a Lorca pilgrimage. 

I had returned to Madrid where I had visited in the fall of 2016, December of 2016, and I had met there a poet, a very fine poet, named Spencer Reece, who runs a reading series in Madrid at the English language bookstore called Desperate Literature…and he has what is called…the Uno Muno Authors’ Series that has sometimes weekly, often monthly reading series that he hosts in this English language bookstore there, and I was fortunate that he invited me to give a reading back in June.  I read with Octavio Quintanilla, who’s the poet laureate of San Antonio, Texas, and another fine poet, Marjorie Kanter. 

So, that was one reason I returned to Spain, but also, as I said, one of my destinations was Granada, Lorca’s home there, and I had a chance to meet his niece, Laura Garcia Lorca, who is the daughter of Federico’s brother, Francisco.  [A] lovely woman who gave us a guided tour of the Lorca Center there that has a new exhibition that just came out.  My wife and I…visited the Lorca house where he lived and did much of his writing there in Granada.  So, it’s thrown me back into this essay that I’ve been working on the past ten years or so, that only gets a brief mention in my biography.  But my love of the Spanish culture and of Spanish poets, Latin American poets, is bound up with my first encounters with James Wright from back in college. 

…I gave a second reading, in Portugal, at the University of Coimbra, which is the second oldest university in the world.  The English/American Studies Department there had invited me to give a reading from the biography and so it gave me a wonderful excuse to travel from Lisbon to Coimbra.  Just a wonderful time.  Very well received.

AF:     … Is that history felt there?  You say, “[T]he second oldest university in the world.”  Is that history just seeping out of the walls there; can you feel it?

JB:      Oh, yes.  Very much so.  It’s a beautiful old town.  It had once been the capitol of Portugal.  Lisbon, also, Lisbon utterly charmed me.  It’s a magnificent city.  The whole country is very beautiful and the people there were very gracious to us and very warm and welcoming.  So, I had a wonderful two weeks at the beginning of June, traveling in Spain and Portugal, spreading the good news of James Wright.
The biography is very much about returning people to his poetry.  That’s really what my goal is, has always been, in my study of his work: to share the lasting quality of his work.  I mean, 100 years from now people will still be reading James Wright’s poetry, as long as we still have the American language to fall back on—he’s that important.  His contemporaries knew that.
The poets that knew him and knew his work recognized in him that he was the real thing.  I mean, he—it’s kind of remarkable— the three different poets that I interviewed said, in almost exactly the same words, “He was the real poet.  I’ve written some good poems, but he, among us, was the poet.”  I’m thinking of Philip Levine, Robert Bly, and Louis Simpson.  Those are just three off the top of my head, but that was a—it startled me sometimes that that was such a clearly held belief among his contemporaries…many of my interviews, of course, took place in the last dozen, you know, certainly the last twenty years—and so he had already been gone for a long time and these poets I was interviewing in speaking of him are really speaking about the quality of the work.  It’s a part of our language and a few of these poems are a part of every poet’s memory. 

So, the influence that he’s had, certainly on the generation that came after him—I’m thinking of C. K. Williams and that next older generation, Larry Levine and, oh so many poets—Rita Dove… Mary Oliver was [greatly] influence[d] of James Wright [in] her poetry; probably the most compelling of all mentors that she chose for models of her work. James Wright is certainly the greatest among them.  So, in her work, which is currently the most widely read among American poets, it comes directly out of her study and correspondence with James Wright, her friendship with James Wright.

AF:     Why?  Why is James Wright the poet, whereas other people, they’re poets, but they’re not the poet.

JB:       [W]hat they’re speaking to, what they’re trying to express—we use the word “embodied.”  It’s almost as if he didn’t have a choice; he was a poet through and through.  E. L. Doctorow said, “I had met poets before—” he’s speaking of his time with Wright at Kenyon College when they were undergraduates there— “but James Wright never stopped being a poet.”  He lived and breathed poetry.  He was kind of helplessly enthrall of poetry in a way that other writers could immediately recognize, that it meant everything to him.

The expression of his thinking and feeling through language was—I mean, I don’t know if compulsive is the right way.  It’s almost like a glorying in language, a kind of ecstasy, in a way, that he was pursuing.  He always spoke of language as a music that you heard, and I think in a way he was carried away by it; it just meant everything to him. 
It resulted in his family kind of being shipwrecked because, if—this wonderful man that I interviewed, named Harry Weber, who was very close to James when he was living in Minneapolis…said, If James, if Jim Wright was forced to, between poetry and anything else, poetry would always win out, and that was certainly true of his family, and for much of his life. 

When he finally got sober in the last years of his life, there was a more—he was much more equanimous.  He had reached a level of trust in himself and forgiveness of himself that he could find more balance in his life.  But, certainly, in the great bulk of his life there was no contest.  Poetry was the center of his being, in a way.  That’s part of what these other poets are speaking to when they say he was the poet.  And he was also that good.  Other poets recognize that immediately. 

His great command of free verse comes out of the deep study he had done in formalist verse, in traditional verse, and rhymed & metered verse.  He studied with John Crowe Ransom at Kenyon College.  Robert Lowell had been a protégé of Ransom’s and James Wright became the next one.  Lowell was, I believe, seven years older than James Wright, so they’re kind of a half generation there, but Wright was very much a protégé of Ransom’s at Kenyon […] he studied with Theodore Roethke at the University of Washington in Seattle, and that, too, was a mentorship in a very deep way.  And Roethke is probably the most criminally neglected great poet in the American pantheon.  He was an absolute magician with language; he had a total command of everything from the great plain stylists, Elizbethan poets, up through the free-verse great poems that he was writing in the collection The Lost Son, and all the great greenhouse poems.  Roethke was just a marvelous teacher and a great friend to James Wright when [Wright] was a graduate student at the University of Washington in Seattle.

AF:     It was interesting to me—the two thing that really made an impression on me while reading the book—well three things: the first one is I couldn’t read the book straight through because I kept having to go back to the Collected Poems and read more of those.

JB:      Excellent.  That was my whole intention. 

Part of the difficulty for me in editing the book was restricting myself to not quoting so extensively from work that was published that is, in a sense, easily found in other publications.  Having been given the opportunity to go through his unpublished work and having that—it’s so incredibly rich, what people have not read or seen in his journals and in his letters, his unpublished correspondence, and…Oh my God, the journals are just so, so incredible.  And the drafts of poems that people haven’t seen—the genesis of individual poems and the translations that are unknown.  All of that, I felt was much more important to find a place for in the biography.  The unpublished work that people have not seen—I thought that that, referring people to outside the Complete Poems was something I just ended up needing to do because there was such a great richness of material that fills out the story, expands the story, broadens, deepens the story of his life.

AF:     I had a similar experience with certain prose references.  For example, I’d never read from Trakl.  I dealt with some other people as well, was exposed to some other people and I read some of their work.  [Wright] was definitely not restricted to poetry…

JB:      That’s right.  That was the great joy of writing this book…He was a brilliant man beyond anyone I can name.  His intelligence was just omnivorant.  His love of reading, his need to expand into language.  He read incredibly widely. 
Early on, when I began work on the biography, I knew that I had to read H. L. Menken, who I hadn’t read before.  I knew that I had to read Ring Lardner and all the poets I had read only glancingly, such as Roethke and others.  Stanley Kunitz was a great mentor of Wright’s.  All of these poets, and other writers.  It wasn’t just poets. 

I had to read Dickens; James Wright was a Dickens scholar and loved the English novel.  Tristram Shandy—Lawrence Sterne’s great picaresque novel.   All that great, early British—that was James Wright’s forte as a teacher.  He was a marvelous teacher and refused to teach creative writing.  He wanted to teach the history of the English novel; that was his specialty.
So, there was a great learning that I had to do working with James Wright’s own library.  That was a great gift.  The friendship I had with Anne Wright gave me access to the books of his that she still had in her possession as well as the books that are now held in Minneapolis, at the Anderson Library archives at the University of Minnesota, where all his papers are.  They have a collection of his books as well.  Many of those books I painstakingly found duplicate copies of and transferred his marginalia into working copies of my own.  That deep research in his library was a kind of, something I depended upon while writing the book. 

There’s a way in which I wanted that to come across to the reader—his books and his library were, at times, something like a life raft for him.  They were that important when he was—certainly in the years he spent in Minneapolis, which were somewhat abhorrent to him.  His reading and his love of books and poets meant the world to him…kept him afloat.  He was drinking a lot then, too. [Laughs] That’s probably not the right metaphor to use.

     And yet it’s a fact.

JB:      It is a fact.  Yes.  That’s part of why it was important for me to tell the truth as clearly and as plainly as I could, and I think that Anne Wright may have resisted that.  Had I pushed to publish the book quickly, I think I would have had more difficulty convincing her how important it is to tell the full truth of his life.  I believe I’ve succeeded in that and she’s very pleased with the book.  So, I think, finally, in the end—the only reason to tell the story of anyone’s life is to tell the full truth as clearly and plainly as you can. 

Human beings love stories; it’s what we’re made of.  It’s how we think and see the world to a large degree and if you’re not telling the full truth, you’re doing a disservice to your reader.

AF:     Were you ever tempted to, maybe, slightly alter a truth.  Not omit or lie, but was there anything…I’m not asking you to tell me what it was, necessarily, but…

JB:      No, no, no.  It’s a fair question.  Because there is a way in which I felt, having spent so much time in his company, one becomes, not so much protective, but indebted to.  I felt a gratitude toward James Wright for all that he’s taught me and for having this access to his papers.  But the truth is much more fascinating than the lesser part.

He did suffer from nervous breakdown and what were the catalysts there?  It’s always kind of confused by the fact that he was alcoholic, and the kind of alcoholism that he suffered from was very pernicious; it was debilitating in a way.   Once he started drinking he literally couldn’t stop.

It’s a through-line in terms of the story of the book until he finally, in the spring of ’75, begins going to AA.  In May of ’74, he finally declares that he needs to get sober and tries to go cold turkey, and that actually precipitates the last breakdown he suffers from in October of 1974.  It was following the death of both his parents the previous year, so there was a lot of grief he was processing, and the alcohol had always kept that under wraps, kind of pushing it away, and I think a lot of things came back upon him when he was struggling to get sober. 

[I]n the final two years of his life he is sober and the poetry he is writing in the last phase of his work is absolutely stunning.  His command of language is preeminent, I believe.  He was, as you know, beginning to write in prose.  He wouldn’t call them prose poems; he insisted on calling them “prose pieces” because he believed that what he was doing in that work, in these shorty lyric paragraphs, was trying to teach himself how to write good, clear prose.  So, he resisted calling them prose poems because he felt that muddied the distinction he was making in his own mind.  And yet, in drafting his last poems, the great posthumous book called This Journey, and for years beforehand, he alternated between drafting work in free verse and prose.  Many, many, many times he would alternate back and forth with a particular poem, trying to hear, as he would speak of it, to listen for what it sounded like in prose.  Then he would re-draft it with line breaks and sometimes he would end up going back to prose.

You can see that marvelous fluidity and command of language in the late work.  It's one of the most fascinating aspects of the development that I see in his poetry is the prose pieces, the lyric prose passages he was writing in the last decade of his life.

AF:     Not that I always want to bring it back to the alcohol—not so much his consumption so much, but it just seems like such a part of the world in which he lived.  It was friends—he would stay up drinking all night, into the late hours with the Blys.  Or his mentors or superiors at the colleges.  You had to drink; you had to imbibe…

JB:      It was part of literary culture in a very peculiar way.  It was true in the ’50s and ’60s in a way that it’s certainly not true now.  It was a way of lubricating the social dimension of poetry in those decades.  So, he couldn’t avoid it; it was the last thing he needed, and it was always there in front of him.  And it was just like a social imperative, in a sense.  Yet there were models of poets that he admired who were, themselves, a terrible model to take up for that reason—Roethke being alcoholic, of course Dylan Thomas.  But these were some of the best readers and lovers of poetry that we had in those decades. 

Of course, we have to remember that, historically, alcoholism wasn’t understood as the genetic component disease that plays so heavily into the way it can swamp a life.

[H]is son Franz suffered from alcoholism, as well.  Both of James Wright’s grandfathers were alcoholic, and Liberty, James Wright’s first wife, her family of Greek ethnicity, her father and much of her family, on Franz’s mother’s side, were alcoholic.  So, [Franz] got a raw deal in the genetic cards. 
Franz suffered terribly from mental illness and alcoholism.  The fact that he was productive as a poet and wrote marvelously, certainly in his early career—Franz is an exceptional poet and a very fine translator.
His father was a direct mentor to him from the time Franz first sent his poems as a sixteen-year-old to his father, when he first showed his poems when, this would be 1969.  From that point on, for the next decade their correspondence was anchored in their shared love of poetry and the mentorship that his father took on towards Franz.  It’s a really beautiful part of the story.

AF:     Oh, it is.  Absolutely.  It made an impression on me, definitely.  Especially because, they were suffering some abuse at home, weren’t they?  The sons? 

JB:      Liberty’s second husband did abuse both boys.

James Wright had two sons with Liberty, Franz being the older, born in 1953, when James was on a Fulbright in Vienna.  He and Liberty had been married for just about a year, I think, at that point.  Franz was born in March of ’53; his brother Marshall was born in Minneapolis, at the end of July in 1958.  So the two boys, five and a half years apart at that point, they were living with Liberty in California when she remarried, and they did suffer abuse at the hands of their step-father.

Franz’s story is a very sad one and James Wright’s relationship to his sons is probably the most difficult part of the book, certainly for me as writing his biography.  When you say, were their times I wish when I wished I could soften the facts somewhat, it’s probably the most poignant and painful difficulty I had was dealing with his relationship with his sons because he simply didn’t show up for the job.  He was, in a sense, waiting for them to be older [Laughs] before he could find some way to interact with them as peers.  Certainly, that’s my feeling with his relationship with Franz.  They become very close as father and son in the final years of his life.  But his estrangement from his young son, Marshall, is really heartbreaking.  Marshall is still alive but suffers from mental illness.  So, there’s a deep sadness there.

There was a misunderstand that Franz bore toward his father when James Wright was in the hospital in New York City, and dying of cancer in the winter of 1980.  So this would be February/March of 1980.  In February, Marshall came out on a bus—his mother had put him on a bus to come out to New York City to visit his father.  He had been estranged from Marshall for almost a year and a half at this point.  Anne Wright refused to let Marshall visit with his father until James Wright’s psychiatrist had interviewed Marshall to see what kind of effect it would have on both of them, that kind of visit.  For Marshall to see what kind of state his father was in.
James Wright had lost almost fifty pounds at this point; he had a tracheotomy and was breathing through a tube and could not speak anymore and was really speaking to people though writing on a pad in the hospital.  It was very clear that he was dying.  

Franz believed that it was James Wright who had refused to see Marshall on his deathbed, but what I learned from reviewing the hospital notes in James Wright’s own hand, and from my interview from Anne Wright, the truth is that it was Anne who finally admitted to refusing to let Marshall visit with his father, after it became clear to the psychiatrist that Marshall was not taking his anti-psychotic medicines and was actually beginning a manic cycle in his illness, and it would have been disastrous for Marshall to visit with his father.  

Yet Franz insisted on his own vision of this story.  The truth is what I read in James Wright’s hospital notes, which make is clear that he did not know Marshall had come to visit him, and yet Franz bore a deep resentment toward his father, and you can read it in a number of Franz’s poems.  A really bitterness that seemed to get worse as time wore on.  

So, I wish that Franz, especially, had survived to read my book.  It would have been a great argument, I’m sure. It’s an argument that I wish I could have had with him.

AF:     So, Anne saved the hospital notes?

JB:      Yes.  Yes, she did.

Me:     So, even at that date—or maybe even earlier, I don’t know—she was aware that she, if not only legally but also in every other way, she was going to be the one to preserve this legacy and share it with the world?

JB:      It’s a deep part of their marriage.  It happens almost from—not even almost from the start; it happens even before they even get married.  

I think Anne saw in James Wright not just a brilliant writer, but someone who needed to be taken care of.  In a lot of ways James Wright was not made for this world.  In terms of feeding, clothing himself, he wasn’t skilled at many of the labors of just day to day life that most of us need to master in order to make our way in the world.
His marriage to Anne in April of 1967—that actually is the beginning of his renaissance.  It took a long while for it to take root, in a sense; the alcohol being the clearest culprit to his really finding peace with himself.  But Anne was really a big part of clearing away the debris and beginning to literally salvage his manuscripts and bring order to his life from that point on.
He spoke of Anne quite clearly—in the same way that he spoke of his friendship with Robert Bly and Carol Bly.  He spoke the same way about Anne.  And he was not speaking fancifully; he was being literal.  The friendship that he found with Robert and Carol Bly in the early 1960s, and the many, many, many trips he took out from Minnesota, traveling west to the Bly farm some 3 ½ hours away, near South Dakota, in the very western edge of Minnesota.  The times he spent on their farm literally made it possible for him to survive.  The love that Carol and Robert showed to him, and the great friendship that he had with Robert—it goes far beyond the question of poetry and how much James Wright’s poetry influenced Robert and how much Robert’s, in a sense, influenced him.  That mutuality of influence is, in many ways, difficult to tease apart.

There’s a misconception that Robert’s poetry somehow had a huge influence on James Wright’s work.  The argument I make in the biography is that it’s the work in translation, and both of them were doing work of translation at that point.  They were reading Chinese poetry in translation and that’s one of the great secrets to the early work they were writing in the early ’60s, but it’s also the translations that they were doing themselves from German. The Trakl that you mentioned; that’s one of the great influences.  In this case, James Wright was fluent in German, and Robert Bly knew very little of German, and very little Spanish, as well.  James Wright worked very hard at learning these languages.  He had studied German at Kenyon, and that was the basis of his Fulbright in Vienna was his study of the German language and the study of the prose of Theodor Storm, a great 19th Century writer who influenced Thomas Mann and that branch of late German Romanticism.  So, James Wright’s fluency in German gave him an access to what Trakl was doing that had a huge impact on him.
So, it wasn’t so much Robert’s poetry—it’s was Robert’s friendship, I think, that made the biggest difference to James Wright.  Had James Wright’s The Branch Will Not Break been published in one of its earlier carnations, say in ’61, or before Robert’s book, Silence in the Snowy Field, appeared in ’62, there wouldn’t be so much argument that Bly had had a huge influence on James Wright.  It would have been the other way around.
James Wright withheld his book, The Branch Will Not Break, until he felt it was good enough [Laughs].  He put together, you know, maybe half a dozen different versions of that book in the course of four years, until he found a sequence that he felt was the book he wanted to write.  That’s one reason it’s his most famous book, certainly; it put his name on the map and is still, I believe, the one that readers return to most frequently.  That was 1963.  But he had discarded 120 different poems that had at one time over the previous five years been considered a part of that book in a sequence of poems he had put together for that book.  Most poets—that’s three different books that other poets may have chosen to publish that James Wright withheld…
That’s just a marvelous example for anyone writing poetry to see that type of dedication to crafting a sequence of poems, a book of poems.  I believe his next book, the book published in 1968—again, another five years later—called Shall We Gather at the River, is one of the great sequences of poetry in American literature.  It’s flawless in terms of the way he put those poems together.  It’s a continuous descent.  And in the final poem, “To the Muse,” it’s a way of trying to come back up again out of the river.  It’s a magnificent, kind of seamless story, narrative, and it takes inspiration from Rilke, which was probably one of the most important poets to James Wright when he was studying German.

You see that same devotion in Rilke that you see in James Wright.  Rilke was also someone who left wreckage behind him everywhere in his relationships with people and the world, largely out of his devotion to poetry.  There’s very few people you can point to in the world of poetry that left so much disaster in their wake out of a helpless devotion to poetry, but James Wright and Rilke are two names that spring to mind.

AF:     The wider world had to often be patient for the finished product, but manuscripts for individual poems were shared pretty far and wide by Wright among his contemporaries and friends, right?

JB:      That’s true.  That’s true.  Not so much—he shared poems in letters, but he wasn’t so much looking for comment or criticism from his peers.  It’s kind of the opposite of someone like Donald Hall, who could scarcely write a poem of his own without getting five or six poets to help him edit his work.

James Wright was much more clear about what he was trying to say, in a sense, and what he wanted his poems to do…Donald Hall…Robert Bly and Galway Kinnell, those were probably the three poets that he trusted the most to comment on his work.  At the end of his life, the poet Hayden Carruth was probably far and away the most important critic that he listened to and shared his work with.  So, he would take their council, but he frequently rejected it.

The most notorious example of his going his own way was the book Two Citizens which he eventually disowned.  One of the reasons for its almost total failure, beside the fact that he was just drinking egregiously at the time he was writing those poems, was that he didn’t share them with poet friends and they may have succeeded in discouraging him from publishing many of those poems.  He did confess that he felt they were simply unfinished, that he hadn’t pushed them through the next round of revision that many of those poems so clearly needed.

AF:     Some of that book is kind of hard to read.  There are times in that book where it’s like, “Whoa.”

JB:      I agree.  I agree.  Yeah.  And yet occasionally there’s a stanza or a sequence of lines that bear that unmistakable voice of James Wright, and you can almost intuit what he might have done had he found the will to work those poems as he did in so much of his other work. 
Part of it is the curse of having won the Pulitzer Prize in 1972.  He was kind of wrecked by that kind of notoriety.  He almost didn’t trust it in a way.  It’s very curious, his reaction to winning the Pulitzer Prize for his Collected Poems that came out in ’71…That triggered one of the worst, kind of, years of drinking that he suffered through, before finally recognizing that he would have to quite.

So, the story—it’s just a remarkable story, his life.  The way that—it’s a question of character, really, that he fought through the suffering he had undergone through as a child, as an adolescent, as a young man in the industrial, kind of barren, despoiled place of Martin’s Ferry, and the suffering that he did from depression and alcoholism.  There’s a strength of character that helped him survive, so that you get that great flowering of masterful late work.  

The final year of his travels with Anne in Europe, and the journals he was writing daily are just, just so spectacular.  I would love to see a version, a published collection of his journals from the final years of his life because they are so remarkably rich and they give you such a clear glimpse into the quality of his intelligence.

That was probably the greatest joy I had in writing the book were those months he was traveling in Europe, and the incredible productivity he was able to tap into in the final years of his life.  Rowland Flint, his great friend from Minneapolis—marvelous reader and raconteur, and great, great friend of James Wright; also a marvelous poet himself—said that James had told him, “My languages are coming back to me.”  There’s this cloud lifting, in a sense, from the years of drinking, and so the richness of language in the late books—To a Blossoming Pear Tree, which came out in late 1977, and then the posthumous book This Journey—the quality of language is just spectacular.  The ease and the naturalness are something to emulate.  All about that intelligence shining through; this great sensibility, I think that’s what readers are attracted to.  There’s someone they can trust; there’s a voice there that isn’t posing, that isn’t trying to impress people—he was always trying to speak the truth, but the truth in terms of our feeling life, our own personal experiences of the world.  He was trying to—I believe he felt that if he could express in a very clear way what his feeling were about his experience in the world, that readers would be welcomed into the poem. 
There’s a quote that I think—it’s in the biography—it’s from the great poet Robert Hass, who’s also one of the great critics we’ve had.  In reading the poem “Outside Fargo, North Dakota”—this is in The Branch Will Not Break—Robert Hass saw and writes, “[A]bsolute clarity of feeling.  A way in which sensibility could become something as lucid and alert as intelligence.”  The kernel of that truth goes to the heart of James Wright’s achievement and also in what readers respond to so openly and so immediately in reading his poems.  That was the experience I had as an undergraduate when I first read his work, and that explains why there was a festival for thirty years in his honor.  There’s an immediacy of response that readers find in these poems that it’s rare, really still, in American poetry, and it’s very, very precious.

AF:      Is there one poem you frequently revisit?
JB:      …[I]t’s probably the first poem of his that I read. 

I was in a poetry class at Cornell University, taught by a wonderful poet and teacher named Thomas Johnson.  I was a sophomore and it was a class where we were reading American poetry—American poets—and also writing our own poems.  So, it was a small seminar class.  On the first day of class, Mr. Johnson asked the students to each read one of their own poems.  After each one of us had read a poem of our own, he somewhat diagnostically instructed each of us to go to the library to seek out a collection of a poet we hadn’t yet read.  And after I had read a poem he said to me, “Have you ever read the poetry of James Wright.”  And I said, “No, I don’t know the name.”  And he sent me to the library to find the book The Branch Will Not Break.  Then he asked us to come back the next week and to choose a poem from it to read and share, and to say why we—how we responded to the poem or why we loved the poem.  The poem I chose to read to the class was the famous “Lying in a Hammock at William Duffy’s Farm, in Pine Island, Minnesota.”

But the first poem I would have read of James Wright’s, and the one that probably means more to me, was probably the first one in that book, which is “As I Step Over a Puddle at the End of Winter, I Think of an Ancient Chinese Governor.”  More and more, that poem keeps coming back to me.  I’ve often been reading it at readings for the biography.  And part of what I realized, the more I think about it, is that the story behind this particular poem—well, I could read it to you.  Is that something you wish me to do?

So here's the first poem that came out in the collection in 1963, called The Branch Will Not Break, and it shows how deeply and widely he had been reading in translation of what we know as Classical Chinese poetry. There's a great explosion of near-perfect poetry in the Tong Dynasty, which is the 800s. We have the great poets Li Po and Du Fu, and this poet that James Wright felt a special affinity for, named Po Chü-i.

As I Step Over a Puddle at the End of Winter, I think of an Ancient Chinese Governor

And how can I, born in evil days
And fresh from failure, ask a kindness of Fate?
--Written A.D. 819

Po Chu-i, balding old politician,
What's the use?
I think of you,
Uneasily entering the gorges of the Yang-Tze,
When you were being towed up the rapids
Toward some political job or other
In the city of Chungshou.
You made it, I guess,
By dark.

But it is 1960, it is almost spring again,
And the tall rocks of Minneapolis
Build me my own black twilight
Of bamboo ropes and waters.
Where is Yuan Chen, the friend you loved?
Where is the sea, that once solved the whole loneliness
Of the Midwest?  Where is Minneapolis? I can see nothing
But the great terrible oak tree darkening with winter.
Did you find the city of isolated men beyond mountains?
Or have you been holding the end of a frayed rope
For a thousand years?
What I realize now in reading this poem, or what it means to me so much, is that there’s something about James Wright coming to the rescue of this poet hanging from the end of his ripe, from centuries before.  There’s something about that gesture of commonality, that James Wright is a contemporary of Po Chü-i.  That all poets from, all poetry from Catullus, from Horace, from Homer—from throughout the world at any time—that shared community of poets.  There’s something incredibly rich and inspirational about that whole idea, and that’s really the center of James Wright’s greatness is that feeling he had for this shared community that we have, that poetry embodies.  But there’s also something about—if James Wright could, in a sense, come to the rescue of an ancient Chinese poet, it made it possible, I realize now, that maybe I could write a biography, that I could make that connection with Wright in a deep enough way to tell his life story.
AF:    The Title of this blog is Poetry Matters.  The double meaning, of course, is obvious: issues relating to poetry and the bold declaration that poetry, in fact, absolutely does matter.  Tell me, how and why does poetry matter?
JB:      …I think I touched upon that in that Wright felt that sense of community that he felt with other poets extends to the communion he was trying to build with readers.  I think that same impulse in his poetry holds true and how important it is, especially now, when there’s such great divisiveness being cultivated by people that we turn to that we wish we could trust.  When divisiveness is so rampant in our culture and is being cultivated—it’s frightening, really.  It’s a threat to our democracy.  But poetry is a common ground that is meant to bring readers together, to bring artists and readers together.
There’s actually a review that was just published of the biography in The Georgia Review… Jeff Gundy is the reviewer.  I’ve very pleased that he pulled out one particular quote that I’d like to read to you, that means a lot to me.  It’s in speaking about “The Minneapolis Poem.”  [About] one of [Wright’s] introductions to “The Minneapolis Poem,” Gundy writes, “Blunk’s account of Wright’s introduction of his poem at a reading captures the poet’s long and crucial struggle to describe, understand and resist the worst of American culture, and to construct some sort of response that might be of use.” 
[T]hese are my words introducing James Wright: “Speaking of his own complicated ancestry, Wright focused on the lasting rift caused by the Civil War.”
These words are James Wright’s: “I sometimes think that since that terrible war started there’s been an awful, suicidal impulse in American life for us all to succeed from one another, and I hope we can check that and realize that despair is very easily sunken into…And we can’t live without one another.  We just can’t do it.”
That quote was very import to me and I’m glad that Mr. Gundy recognized the importance of that statement and pulled it out as a quote in his review of the biography.  And I think that touches upon your own interest in exploring why poetry matters._______________________________________________

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